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to bring bills to the floor unless they got a majority support from republicans. speaker john boehner of ohio violated that longstanding rule last night and in the process he became the only member of the leadership of his party who voted in favor of the bill. eric cantor and kevin mccarthy joined the majority of their party in voting no. boehner did find support from one key republican, paul ryan of wisconsin also voted yes. the main sticking point for republicans, a lack of spending cuts. hours before last night's votes, republicans considered trying to amend the bill from the senate and add additional spending cuts in. the senate made it clear they had no intention of revisiting this idea. so if changes were made that would essentially kill it. before the vote, republicans took to the floor and voiced their concerns. >> there are no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate failed in cutting spending. >> i thought we were in a deficit crisis. i thought families were put at risk by this massive debt. what does this do about that? >> it was way past those s
was because of the deal -- >> john boehner. because of john boehner. >> partly, mitch mcconnell force ed john boehner's hand. >> we expect senators to do that. that's what republican -- republican senators have always spent us deeper into debt. that's what they do. that's their hobby. >> look, in this round, the president got a ton. and liberals who are complaining are most worried not about the terms of this deal but about whether the president's got a weak hand going into the next round. the president, as you pointed out, has said as recently as sunday with david gregory, we need to do medicare reform. we need to do entitlement reform. when we deal with the sequester cuts in two months, when we deal with raising the debt ceiling, even though the president wants to keep that out of the debate, republicans are going to have another chance with leaders like john boehner and paul ryan making the argument. and i think the president once again is going to have that k n confrontation. >> how many trillions do you think they'll add to the debt, mika? paul ryan -- i had the tenth amendment on a lit
out and showed an olive branch dejon banner ever since he has been in. -- john boehner ever since he has been in. president obama has tried to work with these people to get things done, and they will not work with him. host: let's hear from ron in appleton, wisconsin. caller: i woke up this morning, and i am an engineer, an african-american. i have been blessed with a good income. however, when i woke up this morning, though i feared my taxes going up considerably, i was a bit disappointed. the reason for that is that i'm looking long term. taxes, you have to pay for the debt that we have occurred. at this point, it does not matter how we got there. whether it is republicans and democrats or whatever -- it will take all of us to get out of it. it amazes me that everyone wants everyone else to sacrifice, but when it comes to me, i do not want to give that up. at this point, ok, if you are raising my taxes, ok, but make sure that we take care of the debt. that is the big thing. i'm thinking and 10-20 years down the road. i'm not be around then, but my children will be. host: ok, i appr
side today, say midday. that's entirely possible, but, first, house speaker john boehner has to take this deal that was struck in the senate and he will meet with his conference with house republicans and he'll try to get some buy in. explain it to them, have an exchange of ideas and see where they are. you know some of the rank and file house republicans have not been easy to please in this process. so the president, of course, wants this to move through the house quickly. he said neither democrats nor republicans got everything they wanted this agreement is the right thing to do for our country and the house should pass it without the play. if the speaker goes before the conference, perhaps they will try to change it to be more to their liking. amend it, send it back to the senate. and that would sort of prolong the process of going back and forth. and also yes, you mentioned the spending cuts being deferred, but only for two months, john. two months. that means we'll be hanging out a lot talking about some of the stuff we've been talking about now you for months, as it is. >> that
. so any vote in the house will be a vote for tax cuts, not for tax hikes. that helps. john boehner needs to take this deal struck in the senate that presumably has some buy in from him if not from his rank and file, because mitch mcconnell did not negotiate this is a vacuum and this is a pretty overwe will being vote. he will take this to his conference today and see where they are at. the expectation is there are two directions this could go. either a vote on the bill or house republicans propose changes so they can amend the bill more to their liking and send it back to the senate. but i think this is expected to move along here. >> there could be amendments, one past, they could vote on amendments, could fail, and then vote on the full measure. isn't that true also? >> yeah, that is true, and the other thing is once anything goes to the floor, it's not just up to republicans, it will -- and the think the expectation all along, whatever ultimately passes the house as we saw in the senate will require democrats and republicans. >> talking to phil gingery, seemed to be leaning no o
for the middle class. this magic number to pass was tutored 17. so it did receive. house speaker, john boehner voted " yes. this was the first sign and the next is the president's desk that should happen fairly soon. other big stories two people are killed in a crash after a police chase in san francisco's mission district. it's caught on south bay. our top story tonight.the fiscal cliff. the house is now voting on "fiscal cliff" tax increasesit looks as though the senate-approved bill will get enough votes to pass. for the middle class and earning over 450-thousandit also extends unemployment bill is 217. meaning thea police chase ends in a deadly crash. two people were killed this morning after a driver crashed into a liquor store in san francisco. this is surveillance video. a third person was badly injured. all the victims are in their 20's. >> while the remaining of this is being pulled away from the sidewalk the damage done is horrific. >> this was also in mid to 20 year-old pedestrian walking into the store that was pronounced dead. >> the passenger was also pronounced dead. this comes
boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what they have to do publicly. we do not know what those people in the room at the white house are going to say and that is the key. host: the speaker will attend this meeting. he said the house has passed legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. now the senate must act. senator reid said it is up to the house. explain what is going on. guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where yo
republicans have not been able or willing to do. the vote john boehner schedule and had to cancel is evidence of that in the present cost mind -- in the president's mind. we have part of what speaker boehner said. "the comments today are ironic as a recurrent theme was his unwillingness to stand up to anything in his own party. from the republican side of the aisle and speaker boehner, where are things at the moment? guest: the speaker had been hoping there would be a larger deal. the president was ready to move forward on in the time they had in front of them. this was in vision at one point to be the grand bargain which would incorporate in atomic reform and all sorts of budget cuts. changes to the tax rates. unemployment benefit changes. going all the way through to the debt ceiling being raised as part of it as well. that was not something that was ever really where things were headed by the time the negotiations got started. for speaker boehner, he wants to see the spending cuts that would go along with them. he does not feel the president has put forward enough of a plan to where the sp
: not so fast. house speaker john boehner and his gop lawmakers might not go along. boehner sent house members home to celebrate the new year without a vote to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> listen, this is disgusting. and everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today whether to follow the senate's lead and hike taxes on the wealthy. from capitol hill, steve handelsman, nbc news. bill, back to you. >> reaction to the senate's move was swift as many people were still up welcoming the new year. familiar faces on msnbc were in rare form starting with joe scarborough who tweeted, why can't washington ever put together a deal that cults spent? this deal fails on most counts. it's a distressing failure of leadership. "morning joe" regular steve ratner tweeted, the only thing worse than this deal would have been no deal, or maybe not, he added. ezra kline wrote, obama isn't making it easier for res to vote for this deal but probably thinks if the rs kill it they get all the fiscal cliff blame. >>> now deals on
john boehner brought that senate plan up for a vote. it passed 257 to 167. for much of the day republicans argued whether to change the bill by tacking on spending cuts and send it back to the senate. but senate leaders warned that would blow apart the deal. taxes would only go up on americans making $400,000, couples $450,000. it also extends long-term unemployment benefits and fixes the alternative minimum tax but delays the spending cuts for two months and that is setting up another fiscal crisis. >> no one believes that what we have before us tonight is a long-term solution to this problem. >> problem is we set up three more fiscal cliffs. we're going to have to deal with the debt ceiling, deal with the continuing resolution, expiration and the sequester. and all that's left is spending cuts. we got to look back on this night and regret it. >> in his comments last night, president obama warned republicans he planned to ask for more revenue as part of his promised deficit reduction measures. republicans said they are going to work hard for cuts to entitlement programs as any
. this is going to be in their hands at this point. john boehner is like we've got to look at things. it's not going to happen overnight. >> it seems like a couple of weeks ago but it was about a week ago when the house of representatives voted on boehner's plan b which would have set the threshold at $1 million. now they're going to vote on it at $450,000. you've got to figure a lot of republicans aren't going to go along. >> what exactly happened? we're going to go over this in detail with chad who saw the play-by-play and was e-mailing us the play-by-play. mitch mcconnell called up -- bypassed senator reid who never got back to him on saturday and said can i speak to the vice president, joe biden? we're used to cutting deals together. like it or not, these are the two that hammered it out. they put it together. when it was all said and done, this is what joe biden had to say about how this deal actually came to fruition. >> what was said there was kind of hard to hear. what was your selling point? biden said: me. it's interesting, the senators, the democrats all got together late yes
a picture of speaker john boehner there on the front page. how did he factor into this and what was his message to members? guest: he had it tough because he's the one who will eventually need to say he got something done. no one wants to be on a book for the tax increase. they called it eclipsed for reasons. the tax increase on middle class americans was the biggest part of the cliffs. it was the biggest threat to gdp growth of if you let the taxes go up. so that is a tough position he's in. he is facing comment and criticism from conservatives saying don't pass this, because this is just more debt. so it's a tough balancing act. in the end, he has said for his role speakership and he wants the house to work its will. convenientt's a good way to put it at times. and taken back up and say let us see what the house does aunt clara at the house do what it wants. and you're inevitably split with republicans and you let it go through that way. early in the process he voted and walk away and they were gone. during debate last night, many democrats showed up to debate the measure if and said
was, a decision was made by john boehner and other house leaders to only go in the direction of amending the senate bill if they would have the 217, 218 votes necessary in order to actually get the amendment through the house, pass the bill with an amendment, and send it back to the senate. members coming out of a republican meeting indicated they do not have the votes. they will put a clean vote on the floor on the senate bill. >> it is being reported now that the chair of the house rules committee is moving ahead with the meeting time at 8:10, which is right now. an emergency meeting of the rules committee. he is not waiting for cameras to get put into place we are unable to bring the start of that. . we will keep you updated. is there tension between speaker boehner and eric kanter during this process? >> as we have seen, there has been talk of that in the media. every time it comes up, as it has come up again tonight, people are quick to reflect reports from the caucus meeting this afternoon were that the two walked in to gather, they are trying to avoid anything the caus
boehner on the last day to keep that off the house floor. john boehner has followed what denny hastert used to impose as the majority of the majority rule. you don't bring something to the floor unless most of your members are for it. i think john boehner in this case would be willing to set that aside. he would have something else for his members to vote for, which would be more favorable to those die hard conservatives who oppose the deal, but i think he would put it on the floor and i think eld pass. >> joining us now on the set is republican congresswoman shelly moore-capito and democratic congressman greg meeks from new york. congresswoman, i think he could do that and bring it and still be fine on january 3rd. is that your view? he would be re-elected speaker. >> i think he's going to be re-elected speaker, regardless. but i think there is a will in our conference, in the republican conference, to act, to have something on the floor to react to. i would say that it could be that it comes back from the senate and we act on it, but we amend it and change it. i wouldn't say it would
$1 of spending cuts. republicans who voted for it like speaker boehner who doesn't typically cast a vote declares they intend to fight harder for spending cuts in the new year. speaker boehner says quote now the focus turns to spending. the american people releblthed a republican majority in the house we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he said for the reforms driving our country deeper and deeper into debt. the second ranking republican in the house after speaker boehner is majority leader is eric cantor. cantor voted against this deal last night. a spokesman told us the virginia congressman was not happy with the bill that passed the senate and spent all day yesterday trying to find an alternative but he couldn't. he said he is still proud of the speaker and other republicans who vote to do avoid what he called the largest tax hike in u.s. history. >>> the debate is far from over as law americas turn their focus to the debt ceiling and spending cuts. for that we take a look at who is talking. >> charles krauthammer talking his analysis how
for a rare sunday evening session. it's not clear what the house will do. house speaker john boehner still insists it's up to the senate to make the next move. >>> iran's state television is reporting the country's navy started training drills in the strait of hormuz. iran is reportedly warned other ships to stay away from the site until after the new year. the state tv report says it includes warships, submarines and jet fighters. other countries are worried these tests are another step towards iran developing a nuclear weapon. >>> the military world is mourning the death of the man known as stormin' norman. general schwarzkopf died yesterday from complications with pneumonia. he helped lead forces during the first gulf war that removed saddam hussein from kuwait. a friend of his says schwarzkopf was in love with america and possessed with a sense of duty. he was 78 years old. schwarzkopf's death sparked reaction from many prominent american politicians and military leaders. former secretary of state general colin powell said "america lost a great patriot and a great soldier. his leadersh
leader mitch mcconnell. john boehner not in this, nancy pelosi isn't in this, not even the president. the house reconvenes at 10:00, the senate at 11:00, bright and early. sarcastic. neither of them showing particular signs of progress. >> these two worked together in the senate for 20 years. so you hope -- >> in fairness, the houses are not convening. these guys are not working. i don't care if it doesn't play out in the media. the big stumbling block has been avoided. republicans dropped their demand to reduce social security cost of living increases. >> i was really gratified to hear republicans had taken the demand for social security benefits off the table. truth is, they never should have been on the table to begin with there is still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> they have all been politically messaging, not sure why they are being critical of it now. thousands of there's of your t
obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start with you. thi
connell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker is in a very strong position. and besides, this is a very difficult job. i don't see many republicans standing up and wanting to take speaker boehner on. not many other people could do the job like speaker boehner is. >> i agree. i see you saying that. think about it, he didn't look good when plan b couldn't go to a vote. how can he be strong in this position? >> i think house republican see the position he's in.
and realize that obama is crazy. john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing in on facebook. back to the telephones. ruth on the line for democrats. caller: they talk about the fiscal clef, but they are not really interested in fiske's -- fixing the fiscal cliff. there are interested in their own party. they have been against the president from the beginning, so they are not going to change anything. they do not want to help america. what people are they for? the people have spoken, but they do not ever listen to the people. what people are the working for? host: james in new york as a deadline for independents. caller: i just want to p
off speaker boehner needs to take the deal that was struck and passed in the senate and needs to see where his house republicans stand on this. of course i think the expectation is that if he were to put it to a vote in the house it would pass, there would be democratic support for it and there would also be some republican support. the question, is there enough republican support as it is right now to just put it up for a vote. republicans may look at it and say we want to change some things, make it more to our liking so they could propose some amendments. it's possible they could change it but joe, even if they were to go through that process, it is something that could still happen very quickly but we're waiting to see what comes out of a meeting today between the speaker and his republicans. >> now this deal certainly buys some time, but is the white house a little bit concerned that they're going to have to fight this battle again in a couple months? >> no doubt about it. they know this is a reality. the president knows this is a reality, all of his aides know that as well. the
stuck, so senator inhofe and i and senator reid went over to meet with john boehner and chairman mica and we all agreed we'd get it done. neither side got everything they want and anyone who takes that position in my opinion is not putting country first. i don't care whether they are republican, a democrat, or anything else. we are not each of us going to get everything we want. lord knows. there's a lot i could do if i had a wand and could make it happen. but everybody has a different view of exactly how to go forward and i think we're being tested here. so i know it's tough going, and i know if we don't get a deal, it doesn't stop there, we'll keep on working. but there is no reason on this beautiful god's green earth why we can't get a deal here. if everyone is sincere in saying they want the middle class could be protected, we can get a deal here. president obama says $250,000 is the line, maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $500,000, maybe somebody else $150,000. we can meet somewhere and cut that reason somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the u
. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on sound financial footing. it's obvious what's going on around here. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker before we get serious with the negotiations, because he has so many people over there that will not follow what he wants. that's obvious from the debacle that took place last week's. host: referring to the vote yesterday on speaker boehner's plan b. guest: they might feel they have better numbers in the house than they do now later. he would be able may be to push a plan through without as much republican support. i doubt it. it would be really risky move and then we are in early january without a deal still. host: that's what you wrote in the washington journal this morning -- the wall street journal. republicans participating in a conference call yesterday said -- guest: that's right. the republicans feel like if they wait this out, they might have a clean slate on the taxes to work with. it would not be accused of increasing taxes if taxes have already gon
than the norm. >> president obama and today's edition of "meet the press." speaker boehner in particular said "the president has never called for the senate to act on those bills, he has allowed the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our bene
of market sense, then you're losing. if senator reid says something and speaker boehner says something else, nothing fundamental has changed. white stock investors are buying and selling based on political speeches is beyond me. host: what index will you be watching? here is a headline from the wall street journal -- what index will you be watching? guest: think consumer confidence is the big indicator. there are a number of ways to measure it. if you go back to the august debt ceiling deal, i think people did not even realize in washington, but you look at the data, he saw a major drop in consumer confidence around the time and it became clear that politicians were arguing and squabbling and were not coming to terms. i think that is a severe problem in this recession because consumer demand is not strong enough to propagate a strong economic recovery. anything that dampened consumer demand is a problem. watching these politicians not getting together, even if they get a deal, the damage there is down. you see your leaders not being able to take simple steps. the deal they are talking about
to be done in the senate. the house did its best, boehner did his best, now it's up to the senate to come up with something. is that your position now, your understanding of how your house leadership is handling this? basically the ball is in the senate's court? >> all you have to do is look at what harry reid, the leader of the senate has been saying from day one. every time that speaker boehner put forth a common-sense plan to fix this problem, harry reid would say, right off the bat it is doa, dead on arrival. not one thing that speaker boehner proposed that reid said, oh, we can work with that. it's about scoring political points. the american people are tired of all of us, i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group is below us. but we've got to get our act together, and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. and as you say, not kick the can down the road. they want to us work this out. i hope we do. >> let's talk about something a little more bright. the former marine stuck in mexic
be a measure to require democratic support in the house which speaker boehner was not relying on then. you look at this lo the judgically, this is entirely possible to get through congress, the issue is, it is politically possible to get through congress? we don't know the answer to that. >> thank you, brianna keilar. >>> police are investigating whether nbc's david gregory violated d.c. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30-round magazine during a "meet the press" interview. >> here is a magazine that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible that we got rid of ese and said you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it possible we could reduce the carnage? >> i don't believe that will make one difference. >> we don't know if that was authentic or a prop, but having a large-capacity ammunition device like a magazine is illegal in washington, d.c. if it holds more than ten rounds of ammunition, whether or not it's attached to a firearm. >>> los angeles, pushing up its gun buyback, in light of the newtown massacre it was originally set for next may. in
:00 a.m. eastern time and that will get him back thursday morning where he & and speaker boehner need to figure out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress when they are back home to think about that. think . obligations of people who cent us here. >> speaker boehner is expected to return to dc any time he with drew the republican plan b deal that extends tax cuts to everyone under millionaire. he was confident that the cliff could be avoided last time we heard from him. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll work on a plan to protect families and small businesses. >> and so there is time for a in person meeting. >> we are getting some twitter for rick. what is new york city looking li
david rivera to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 17, 2012, the chair will now recognize members from lists smithed by the majority and minority leaders -- submitted by majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and minority whip limited to five minutes each, but in no event shall debate continue beyond 11:50 a.m. the chair recognizes the gentleman from maryland, mr. hoyer, for three minutes. mr. hoyer: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, it was to my profound disappointment that i learned last night that the house would adjourn the 112th congress without providing assistance to the victims of superstorm sandy. i am joined today, mr. speaker, by many of my colleagues from the jurisdictions that -- whose people received the most damaging blow. though my district did not sustain the
afternoon what are the house or congress going to do. what is john boehner going to do? is he going to bring it up for a vote to. >> their total of all these terrible things. with taxes going up for the middle class. basically, we've kicked off down the road. and what type of reductions have we have. there will not be a market shot however, there is going to be a couple of things happening. there will be debt ceiling and in fact the government could run out but better news than the we have before. what will john boehner do? will the have the votes nancy pelosi is going to march in the troops and get it through. if something that is something that mitch mcconnell suggested there could be also a different outcome. >> were going to be the winners and losers? >> obama, special interest, the american people everyone, overall is going to be a winner. the big loser is two months down the road what are we going to do. >> there is a lot of finger- pointing going on. you could say what is hobbling the ointment. >> i would say that congress. and they have had nearly two days in the have not had this do
.m. this morning. it does not appear the house will vote on that bill. tense new year for john boehner as he meets with fellow republicans whether to okay the fiscal cliff bill passed overwhelmingly by the senate. >> the yeas are 89. the nays are 8. >> gop lead verse not agreed to let the house vote or amend the bill. >> i think more members want this to pass than are willing to vote for it. that's pair muff. some have principled opposition. you also have to be practical on what's the best deal you can get given the circumstances. >> reporter: vice president joe biden was back on the hill after helping to broker the senate deal. it spared the middle class the tax hike but raised taxes on those making over $400,000 a year. jobless benefits were extended for millions of unemployed but massive cuts to the military and other federal agencies were delayed for two months. democrats now want the chance to vote on the bill and as they say boehner promised. >> until now our speaker has said when the senate acts, we will have a vote in the house. that is what he sped. that's what we expect and that's what t
to the fiscal cliff, we are watching john boehner, playing out on a national stage a game i am not sure the national media quite gets ors perhaps even they as astute asst they are, the game of politics they quite get.g this is everything for a lot of people, what do you make of it>i in their attitudes, their demeanor, eir personality? >> everybody is trying to beth right, it needs to happen for what is best for our country anm in this country. >> is almost a testosterone contest. it is not about winning for the american peop is about winning for the party, i can do it better than you, it has to be who wins, w who loses? >> psychologically it is unsettling because it interferes with their comfort level in terms of spending and feelingf comfortable.th >> i don't think about it, they noticed a game of chicken when it comes to this fisl cliff. lou: etc. look a except when wet projections. talking about another recession.
and read this information. i would like just to quote from the let since to speaker boehn boehner, leader reid, pelosi and mcconnell from the director of national intelligence on this provision which authorizes surveillance directed at non-u.s. persons located overseas who are of foreign intelligence importance. and it goes on to say all of the process -- it's pages and pages. all of the process that is carried out, carried out in a classified forum, but to inform the members who are there essentially to provide the oversight. i mean we, the public. we are not of the intelligence community. we are the public. and it's our oversight, it is our due difficult again to go in and read the classified material. so this is an effort to make that material public. and i think it's a mistake at this particular time because i think it will chill the program. i think it will make us less security, not more security. and i'd respect fugging submit to the chair and inspection that terry to listen that part of our oversight is to see the best can that the intelligence provided by the 16 different intelli
boehner walked out of the negotiations with the president and then he walked out of the house of representatives and a total of his members to go home while we are four days away from going over the fiscal cliff. and his members, the house members are all on a tax payer paid vacation while the country is four days away from hitting the middle class when we go for the fiscal? so number one, speaker boehner, bring the house back now, shot to work. it's time for the house of representatives to do its work and show up. member to come as senator cardin said before, the ball, the ball right now is actually in the house of representatives court because the senate's has already passed the bill with a majority vote that would extend the middle class tax cuts and the bill is sitting right in front of the house of representatives. there is nothing and i mean nothing stopping the speaker from taking that bill up for a vote in the house of representatives today. nothing stopping it except for the fact that they are still on vacation around the country. and if we were to take up that bill,
're going to get something done. we heard from house speaker john boehner earlier today. where is this? clearly it looks like now it's in the senate's hands. >> that's right. it is absolutely in the senate's handings, has been effectively since the house speaker failed to pass his so-called plan b proposal last week. and so what is going on behind the scenes right now, suzanne, is the senate democratic leader is trying to figure out if he can cobable together enough votes, which would mean he would have to have probably significant crossover to get some votes to at least pass the bear bare minimum to ahouseholds with incomes of less than $200,000. >> the speaker has just a few days left to change his mind but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> so there's a time issue because we're only five days away, but most importantly there's a political and process issue. the political issue we've talkeder this the last few days, suzanne. it's a question of whether or not there's enough lawmakers, willing to take the vote which would effective
and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if hooert side is watching very closely. we did a survey and we got two interesting questions. one that's very tough on republicans. we a
thank speaker boehner for bringing this legislation to the floor. public we can duplicate a strong bipartisan vote that was achieved in the united states senate. why is that important? because the american people told us in the election that they wanted us to work together. they have their differences, too. they understand this agreement. they also understand compromise. that is what this legislation represents. the previous speaker said he was voting for the bill for what was not in it. that is an interesting approach. we can judge be legislation we vote on for what is in it, or vote against it for what is not in it. at some point you strike a balance. you balance the equities -- where you come out in terms of making a choice? i hope the choice the american people will make tonight will reflect the well and keep the call of the american people to work together and follow the lead of the senate with a strong bipartisan support. what do they want us to do? what are the priorities? they want us to create jobs. they want us to grow the economy. they want us to invest in education. the
in moments of crisis. it was literally the 11th hour, after 11:00 at night when house speaker john boehner finally put the senate plan up for a vote. as i said 267-157 with mostly democratic support. republicans voted against it almost 2-1. for pompano beach of the day house republicans -- for most of the day the house republicans debated on spending cuts. senate leaders warned that would blow apart the entire deal. the deal does mean taxes will only go up on americans making $400,000 or couples making $450s. these fewer people than president obama initially wanted. it also extends long-term unemployment benefits, fixes the alternative minimum tax and prevents a spike in dairy prices. it delays the $109 billion in automatic spending cuts for just two months. now, those cuts are the result of congress' naibility to agree on -- inability to agree on deficit reduction measures the last time the debt ceiling had to be increased, that was just five months ago. president obama last night warned republicans not to hold the government hostage over the debt ceiling again. >> we can't not pay bills
and spoke briefly with reporters. speaker boehner issued a statement saying they would honor the commitment for a senate agreement if it is passed. a decision will not be made until the house members and the american people have been able to review the legislation. this will probably take longer than anyone thinks. -- everyone thinks. senate democrats next critics -- expect a strong vote. a tax increase for people making more than four audited the thousand dollars a year and individuals making $400,000 a year. an increase in state tax. an extension of unemployment insurance for one year. we will continue to bring you updates here on the c-span network as they become available. >> a lot of people that i know, looking back on the last four years, the program has been a jobs program. how many jobs in your district and your state. the space shuttle passed by one vote. it was passed all around the country. we have people working in different places. i can tell you some pretty brutal stories about politics that involved in our space program. bring home the bacon. the bacon is jobs because jobs ge
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